Taxonomic Swap 111644 (Δημιουργήθηκε στις 22-06-2022)

Taxonomy of the Cactaceae Vol:I to IV (Αναφορά)
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Προστέθηκε από najera_tutor στις Ιούνιος 22, 2022 0635 ΜΜ | Δημιουργήθηκε από najera_tutor στις Ιούνιος 22, 2022
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What published taxonomic treatment is this based on? There has been much confusion about these names and we should be careful to only follow the best evidence.

Αναρτήθηκε από pieterwinter πάνω από 1 χρόνo πριν

@najera_tutor @christiaan_viljoen this seems to be going against POWO for no apparent reason. Please justify the change or revert to C. pallida.

Αναρτήθηκε από pieterwinter 11 μήνες πριν

@jeremygilmore how can we separate these as two different species? Clearly they are not the same species!

Αναρτήθηκε από christiaan_viljoen 11 μήνες πριν

@najera_tutor Will have to explain his reasoning. Further discussion at this flag:
https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/622927

Αναρτήθηκε από jeremygilmore 11 μήνες πριν

How much time is reasonable for @najera_tutor to explain this.
In fact, it should have been explained and properly referenced on this swap.

It is referenced as Source: Taxonomy of the Cactaceae Vol:I to IV (Citation) - unfortunately no page and no volume.
It is mentioned in volumes 3-4 as
"2019: in September, a new phylogenetic work on Cylindropuntia still more complete was done by Majure et al."
it is not mentioned here: https://bsapubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ajb2.1364
Phylogenomics in Cactaceae: A case study using the chollas sensu lato (Cylindropuntieae, Opuntioideae) reveals a common pattern out of the Chihuahuan and Sonoran deserts
Lucas C. Majure, Marc A. Baker, Michelle Cloud-Hughes, Andrew Salywon, Kurt M. Neubig First published: 23 September 2019 https://doi.org/10.1002/ajb2.1364Citations: 30

So not sure what this is based on.

In POWO we have:
.* Cylindropuntia imbricata subsp. rosea (DC.) M.A.Baker First published in Madroño 66: 93 (2019) This subspecies is accepted
Native to: Mexico Central, Mexico Gulf, Mexico Northeast
Introduced into: Cape Provinces, Free State, Northern Provinces, Peru, Canary Is.
.* Cylindropuntia pallida (Rose) F.M.Knuth First published in C.Backeberg & F.M.Knuth, Kaktus-ABC: 126 (1936) This species is accepted
Native to: Mexico Central, Mexico Northeast
Introduced into: Namibia, Zimbabwe, New South Wales, Northern Territory, Queensland, Saudi Arabia, South Australia, Spain, Western Australia

Αναρτήθηκε από tonyrebelo 10 μήνες πριν

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