'IDing party' for some Southwestern Syrphidae

There are currently 978 Syrphidae in the southwestern USA that aren't IDed below supertribe, down from 995 this morning. A few of us have been chipping away together at these for the last week or so, and @trinaroberts had the nice idea of making a journal post for this 'IDing party' to let more people join.

The link is https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=49995&place_id=14%2C50%2C40%2C52%2C9%2C34&lrank=supertribe

Some guide materials are at https://sites.google.com/view/flyguide/southwest/syrphidae-southwest

Let the fun begin! Let us know in a comment if you're joining so that we can share updates... even a couple IDs here and there count! And of course feel free to tag some of us if you find a particularly challenging or interesting one.

Posted on Οκτώβριος 21, 2020 0220 ΠΜ by edanko edanko


I'm trying to make a link to exclude larvae but still show observations with unspecified life stage, is that possible? Something like https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?taxon_id=49995&place_id=14%2C50%2C40%2C52%2C9%2C34&lrank=supertribe&without_term_value_id=4,6,7

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

This is a bit of an experiment, so looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

This is great!! Thanks for putting this together. We can weed through the larva.

Αναρτήθηκε από pcowartrickmanphoto πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

In theory I think your filtering should work if you add &without_term_ID=1 to your search string (to specify the annotation group), but... I can't make it do anything except filter out everything with ANY life stage annotation, not just the ones specified. i.e.

... &lrank=supertribe&without_term_id=1&without_term_value_id=4,6,7
filters out observations with life stage = adult as well as larvae and pupae.

Αναρτήθηκε από trinaroberts πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

OK... aphid-eating larvae (the slug kind found terrestrially) are all in Syrphinae ; rat-tailed maggots and kin are all in Eristalinae ; weird mollusk-like dome creatures found in ant colonies are in Microdontinae. At least that way we can improve the IDs as we go. @upupa-epops has a nice resource at https://www.inaturalist.org/journal/upupa-epops/27363-some-syrphinae-larvae-of-north-america

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

How exciting!! Looking forward to identifying with you all and thank you for setting this up :)

Αναρτήθηκε από spencerchau πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

It looks like we are down to 851 as of when I grabbed the data a little while ago... exciting progress! Plus I know there have been lots of new and confirming IDs and annotations for observations that are still in this group.

Αναρτήθηκε από trinaroberts πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

767 remaining now, but I've reviewed all of them!

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko πάνω από 3 χρόνια πριν

Up to 801 again, but most are larvae... I should consider making a guide to Syrphid larvae.....

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko περίπου 3 χρόνια πριν

Between agriculture and people rearing them there's at least some good information out there on Syrphinae, and certainly some very distinctively different-looking types.

Αναρτήθηκε από trinaroberts περίπου 3 χρόνια πριν

On that note you've probably seen https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/flies-of-the-us-and-canada/journal/44616-larvae-and-pupae-of-north-american-flower-flies

No more need to weed thru the larvae @pcowartrickmanphoto ! (I mean, you still could if you wanted to...)

Αναρτήθηκε από edanko περίπου 3 χρόνια πριν

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